Kickin' & Streamin' Podcast

A Binge-watcher's guide to Streaming Movies, TV Series, & Stuff

Being in quarantine is new and uncharted territory for almost everyone today. It’s especially so if you live in the U.S. where almost everything can be done at a moment’s notice and 24 hours a day. But the looming threat of Covid-19, it’s in our interest to stay home and follow the guidelines outlined by state and local officials in order to prevent the spread of Corona Virus. We at Kickin’ & Streamin’ Podcast know that the struggle is real and there’s only so many recipes you can try, there’s only so many times you can scrub the bathrooms, scroll through social media, read that book you started on your last vacation and never finished. If you find yourself wandering aimlessly on Netflix, Hulu, Prime Video, Roku, and all other streaming platforms looking for something to watch? The following list of binge watchable contents is all you need so you can stop scrolling up and down, and start your binge watch. You’re welcome!

  • Tiger King – this show is totally bats and 100% what we needed as a country right now.  You think you know what’s happening, and then, BAM!  A tiger jumps out of a double-wide and eats your arm.  (Netflix)
  • Power – A charming and skillful New York drug dealer James St. Patrick (aka) Ghost, wants a way out of the drug business and build a legit business portfolio, but much as he tries, Ghost’s past keeps pulling him back into the world he so desperately tries to escape. (Hulu) – Starz
  • Rebooted (2019)- this sweet little short film is an homage to old Hollywood monster movies – except it’s from Australia. Funny and touching, it’s safe to watch with the kids.  (YouTube)
  • Luther – Idris Elba plays this emotionally raw and self-destructive British detective who has a knack for catching murderers, but finds himself trapped in a psychological duel with a predator from whom can’t seem to escape. (Netflix)
  • Cold Case Files – the first season is now available on Netflix, and it’s a good way to pass some time.  Thoughtful and sensitive, this show is an example of how to do true crime TV.
  • Succession – Logan Roy, the aging megalomaniac, narcissistic C.E.O of the international media conglomerate known as Waystar Royco refuses to step aside and cede control of the business to his children after promising and grooming his son Kendall to be his successor. Loyalties collide and all hell break loose. (HBO GO)
  • Dracula – the talented team behind the world-wide phenomenon Sherlock are back with an interesting offering – a retelling of the classic horror tale, with of course only a few twists they could come up with.  Not as popular as Sherlock, but a fun ride nonetheless. (Netflix)  
  • QI (Quite Interesting) Originally conducted by the great British actor Stephen Fry, (aka) the smartest man in show business, QI is the greatest of any trivia/comedy show you’ve ever seen. Giving you a good giggle while making you smart at the same time. (Tubi) (Britbox)
  • Money Heist (La Casa de Papel) Without a doubt, Money Heist is the best foreign language series on Netflix. Hailing from Spain and masterfully dubbed in English, the Heist follows the story of a calculated, meticulous bank robber who puts together a team which successfully perpetrated the greatest heist in the history of mankind and lived to tell the story. (Netflix)
  • Keeping Up Appearances – if you are not familiar with Hyacinth Bucket (that’s pronounced “bouquet”,dear) then now is the time to fix that omission.  From slapstick to word play, this is older British comedy at it’s finest – mind the Royal Doulton! (Britbox)

Hello everyone! we hope you’re all staying safe during this health crisis time and we pray you and your loved ones stay healthy.

We’ve decided to re-purpose episode 35 of our podcast this week because the Netflix series Ozark; which we reviewed a few months back has now returned for a third season, and we think it’s absolutely worth watching. If you aren’t familiar with this series, please take a listen to this episode, and take advantage of the stay-at-home ordinance, or social distancing guidelines in your, state, county, or region to catch up with this absolutely riveting drama starring Jason Bateman, Laura Linney, and Julia Garner.

Enjoy, and please remember to practice social distancing, wash your hands, and stay at home if you can.

Graham : 00:00

Yeah. So tell me about your experience with this movie. How How did you like Jojo?

Jocelyn: 00:07

I was surprised by how much I liked it. I honestly wasn't expecting very much. And now that I have seen it and have seen have read more about it and what happened, um, I kind of feel bad about not expecting very much. Um, so I can't say I have ever been a Shia LaBoeuf fan, but I certainly have a lot more empathy for him and respect that I ever did after this movie.

Graham : 00:40

And And I think that's what That's the main theme here that you don't necessarily have to have been a fan of his to to now because hey makes a point in in in humanizing every element of this movie. And by the way, I think I want to give a little bit more credit to Alma Har'el than shia even. Yes, I wrote his own screenplay in it, so it's about his own life. So I think you have to think about that combination of Shia's personal pain versus the magnificent directing off Alma Har'el.

Jocelyn: 01:26

Yes, I agree with that 100% because I think with a different director. It could have been a piece of crap.

Graham : 01:33

Could be absolutely, You know what, Jojo? With that said, Let's go ahead and start the show about that.

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Intro Announcer: 03:21

This is kicking and streaming podcast of Binge Watcher's Guide to Streaming movies, TV series on and Stuff. Here are your hosts, Graham and Jocelyn

Graham : 03:37

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode off kickin and streamin' Here with you. I am Graham with via Skype on this week of social distancing, My very better half in terms of podcasting. She is the co host. Everyone wants to have what I mind is to have her. Her name is Jojo, Uh,

Jocelyn: 04:02

how did doo?

Graham : 04:03

How do you do it to you Jojo Um and of course, we have to put it out there. You have not been feeling well, but obviously, you know, we don't want our audience to be worried that it has anything to do with covid 19. We live in a part of the United States where at this time, with or without cove in 19 most of us have running. Those isn't in watery eyes and so forth because allergies are the top off top issue, isn't it?

Jocelyn: 04:39

Oh, yeah, there's There's so much pollen in the air. It's insane. But ah, you know, erring on the side of caution and and self quarantining until I am a symptom. Asymptomatic? Is that the right word?

Graham : 04:52

Yes, yes, yes, a symptomatic. I feel like this is one of those words that we've overused lot in this period. And after that, you know, most people will completely forget about it about what it means in in a year from the ER. You know, that is of course, if Cuvee doesn't come back in in the in the next winter,

Jocelyn: 05:16

right? Great. And take a soul out so well, these were happy times. Oh, yeah.

Graham : 05:24

This week we are talking about a fantastic little movie out of Amazon Prime. This movie was in select theaters. I think back in November. If I remember correctly, Yes. And uh is called honey boy is sort off like loosely based on Shia LaBoeuf's life story. Yes, And I have to confess that even though I heard a beautiful interview with Alma Har'el and Shia LaBoeuf on NPR back somewhere early January, I wasn't planning on watching that movie, to tell you the truth. And when you suggested it, I felt yeah, why not make it a podcast episode about it? Just in case we'll run out of things to talk about that I am more interested. Uh huh. The truth, is. When I started watching this movie, I knew where it was going. I was fascinated by shy as performance from the very beginning, Yes, but at the same time, I started to become triggered. And so my first reaction was, I have I have to stop watching these because you know, it's not particularly my life, my life story, But the dynamic of manipulation and control that we see in this movie is has, you know, reminds me a lot of my own upbringing and childhood. So I I think it took me about nine days to finish the entire movie. I could only watch a total of love about 10 to 12 minutes at a time. I don't know. I don't know. You know, I I suffered through this movie a lot. And that's not to say that this movie is not good. This is a great movie and Shia LaBoeuf, deserves all praise is in accolades. But I have to warn you, if you had a difficult childhood, if you've had a difficult relationship with one of your parents or with both your parents, it could you could become triggered, Isn't it Jojo?

Jocelyn: 08:11

Yeah, I I agree with you with that, um, very much so. And not even necessarily was in the sense of, you know, being a golden ticket because I was certainly never anybody's golden ticket. But some of the the the As you said manipulation and sort of gas lighting and the way some of the communication goes on, if you had, perhaps not the greatest parent in the world, more parents in the world. Some of this is probably going to resonate with you and not in the best of manners. That being said, I think that is a testament to the talent of the actors and the director and the writer. Because I think if it had not been handled as skillfully as it was, it would have not. It wouldn't resonate. It would be like, Yeah, whatever. That's not how it goes Theeighty.

Graham : 09:14

You are correct, Joe. Uh, continue, please. But I think I think you are hitting the money part right there.

Jocelyn: 09:22

Yeah, I was I was gonna ask you if you felt if you felt that way to, you know, since it resonated with you. If it if you felt if you felt that that sort of connection to it in the sense of this is really good, because it connects to this part of me, that was a really bad time of my life. But if it if it had not been as well done, I don't think it would have connected to that terrible part of our lives.

Graham : 09:45

Yes, Yes, you're absolutely right. And here's the thing I What fascinates me the most about this movie is the fact that they managed to make art with it. Yeah, it wasn't a cruel piece of movie that they wanted to make it. I don't know. So do you remember, for instance, the movie Precious? Yes. So the movie Precious was a powerful movie, but it was at the same time, a very The cruelty was too much in your face that I don't like. I couldn't call it art, if you will. It was more like, almost as if he were as really as a documentary. There was, you know? Yes. Monique artfully a created a character in there that earned her an Oscar. And she was fantastic in it. But again, I the writing in if in itself was no, nothing compared to these and perhaps no, I'm not talking about. Maybe I shouldn't say they're writing, but rather the managing of the directing of the direction where the movie should be going and the weight should get there. I don't know if I'm making it even making sense.

Jocelyn: 11:18

No, I I think I know what you mean. That this this had a little bit of some of the magic and imagination you feel when you're still a child. Um, especially the interactions between shy girl and and Otis. I felt that that that reached a level of art and kind of reached a level of of having good times even when it was crap.

Graham : 11:46

Yes, yes, yes. And way are going to we'll get into the cast. You remember how many high praises I had for the actress who played who played shy girl? We're gonna We're gonna, you know, took a bit more deeply about the cast and specifically about f k tweaks as shy grow. But yes, you are. You are. I mean, come on, you've got the way that I am. I am. You know, I'm I'm speechless. No, because I'm surprised, but rather because it is just flowing out off your mouth in a way that I, you know, I can only be in all, uh um, So let's sort off, like go into the little be off the off the synopsis off this movie in, obviously the way that you can only do

Jocelyn: 12:46

well, it's It's honey boy. It was written by by Shia Leboeuf and and loosely based on his experiences. His life story is his world view. It's about a a young boy actor in the nineties whose father is essentially his acting coach slash manager slash handler slash agent, who is a sort of a failed stunt actor, kind of a failed actor himself. He has some talent, but not enough to go all the way. But his son is very talented, and it's the story of the relationship between the two of them, the sort of symbiotic need that there is between the two of them for each other, obviously, the need a child has for their parent, but but also the need that this father has for his kid to make it big and the the sort of sadness there is in that the loss of a relationship that could have been. And so it just kind of takes you through that to the child career in the nineties through a series of fash flashbacks and then also it takes you thio him as a young man, having essentially screwed up in being in rehab, and it's just it's a difficult movie to watch, but it's a beautiful movie at the same time.

Graham : 14:23

Yes, that's the best way off Describing it is difficult to watch. And it is a beautiful movie, a piece off art in every way. Shape before eso, as you were saying, the movie is sort of like, divided in in two time lines, right? Yeah. Uh, so you've got odis already as a you know, man child, if you will. Yes. You have roadies at 12 years old and, you know, going through all of these pain in in bad times. So the most powerful thing for me is the fact that she had decided to play the character that is based on his father. Yes. And according to what I read, he originally did not tell his father that he was the one playing him. He actually picked an actor that he knew. Well, Pete, the name of an actor that he knew his father was gonna be very proud off to play him, right? And so because obviously the father is a very vain person. So, you know, it's like coming and telling telling him. Look, I don't know. Clooney has agreed to play you, and of course that you know Oh, yeah. Let me let me sign this away. And then after that, he told him, No, I'm gonna be with the one playing you. And even still, Dad was not having. And he couldn't believe that Cheyenne was actor enough to put to portray him. And this is where we see what it is. Do you remember we had this conversation? What it used to be raised Bye in megalomaniac. And and this is what this guy is. As you said, He is a rodeo former rodeo clown, slash actor slash stoned man who has screwed up so much that he can. He's his time has passed, and he is not gonna make it. And so it's almost as if by carelessly he's living those dreams through his kid. But he can not manage to feel to let himself be proud off that, but rather to feel self pity in our insecure around his kids on talents in unfortunate and good fortune, isn't it?

Jocelyn: 17:03

Yeah. Threatened by him, I would say he's he's threatened by him and maybe a little scared of the kid's talent, and and instead of a CZ, you said, encouraging that, deciding that that has to be ah, bullied, you'll never be as good as make it. You'll never be as good as may.

Graham : 17:24

Right? And so the thing is that he knew that he was what he was saying wasn't true. But to a kid, Yeah, to a kid that said, Like when the person who's supposed to be you biggest champion tells you now, man, you don't have it, you ain't got it. And you know gonna be good. And it was almost in a way, you can only be grace if I make you great, isn't it?

Jocelyn: 17:58

Yes. Yes, yes. Yeah, that nobody else knows as much as I d'oh, you'll never learn anything from anybody but me. And you know, any anything you learned from anybody else's is crap. So, um, you could be good, but you have to follow my ways. But remember, you'll never be as good as me. That

Graham : 18:18

is insecurity in its at its best.

Jocelyn: 18:23

Yes, yes, and I think it's very telling. I know that that shy Leboeuf had to do what he had to do to get his father to sign off on this so he could get the movie made. But I've found it very telling that even though he's, you know, all grown up now and his father is is is elderly. When he's not older, he's elderly. Um and he's still Yeah, he still had the need. He still had to lie to him, You know what I mean? Like, he couldn't just go to his father and say, I'm making this movie and you're gonna sign this, and I'm gonna play you and I don't care what you think, but you're gonna sign it. You know, he's he still had to resort to manipulation, which is what I assume he was taught to get it done. And, um, to me, that's just hugely telling of the related relationship that they had and continue to have.

Graham : 19:16

Oh, yeah, It's that dynamic off fear that even when you are elect I tweeted ones that, you know, I always twit things with the hashtag grown a patient. And I was saying that going on vacation, you no slamming a door. It's such a no no, that at 43 years old, at my own damn house, when when I'm closing the door, I make sure to pull it with both hands so that I don't in fear that I'm gonna I'm gonna get yelled at and there is no one in the world that I will I fear most getting yelled that than my mother did. You know, as a 40 something year old, you know, people. If you haven't been there, you don't understand it. And that's exactly that dynamic we're talking about here. I like. I mean, the kid had to go to his dad and say, Look, man, I'm gonna do these, but you know, it's it's not me. It's somebody else. Like I have to I have to make you look good. Yeah, Um,

Jocelyn: 20:27

yeah, the ripples that ripples, you know, the still pond in the in the small stone. But the ripples go on forever.

Graham : 20:34

Yes, yes. And so let's go ahead and talk a little bit about the cast unless you have any comment about the story itself.

Jocelyn: 20:47

Um, the only thing I wanted to comment on was the chicken. I found the chicken an interesting diversion and sort of ah, metaphor for something that I didn't quite get. That was another part. I felt like where it reached art was was with the chicken. So with Henrietta eso with Henrietta the chicken. So I found the inclusion of her. This sort of I suppose I should explain a little bit for those of you who haven't seen it. The character that shy Leboeuf plays his father had a failed circus act that involved a chicken and they did needed acts. I mean, nothing weirder. Gross. It's just the chicken, you know, did little acrobatic things. And the father did acrobatic things. And when older Otis is in rehab, they have chickens at the rehab center and the in part of working at rehab, they have them work with animals and they have to clean out the chicken coop. And, ah, kind of the the flashbacks that that caused for him too. I found very interesting. And I thought it was a very evocative way of telling the story.

Graham : 22:02

Yes. And this is as you said, this is what brings it's so much more to in an artful movie, as opposed to just telling off a horrible story. Yes. Yeah, it is differently. Subject to interpretation that the chicken both if you notice always never lays a hand on the chicken, huh? It's like it chased that he never that never materializes. Yes, um, in to a certain extends. I I I would put it in my own interpretation. And everybody was just food. You two, Do you think about it in a different way. But for me, it is the happiness in childhood that he still wishes he had, you know, with his father in at the same time, The chicken, in my mind signifies all the dreams that his father constantly pursued and never got a hold off. All of these, you know, dreams. That field. It's like what I thought about it, you know, especially in the very last. I don't know, 10 more eight minutes of the movie, that's all. That's all I could see, you know, because he never gets to actually get a hold of the chain. And even when she could stop running, he just passes by in the two of them are by the pool like, Yeah. Is the chicken okay? Yes. Yeah. Yes. So, yeah, but But, you know, it was one of these details that I personally I wasn't remembering, So thanks for bringing that up, because that that is a very important part of the movie. Is this this thing off the chicken with the dreams and the nightmares and everything, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Um So he did write this movie, The screenplay, at least while he was in rehab, That going through all of these things. And I think this was the time where we all thought Thes guy is a clown. And what a great career he's throwing away. Obviously well are full of judgment and old themes seem to know, Especially when it's about a child actor. You know, all the shit that that will seem to think that would know, You know, Just get it together,

Jocelyn: 24:49

right? Right. Oh, they've got it so easy. They've got everything they've ever wanted and their famous Why aren't they happy? They should be happy. Why are you screwed up? What do you have

Graham : 24:57

his herd of about? Yeah, that that's not reality. And I think he's managed to make his case a CZ. We said in the beginning that you don't necessarily have to be a big fan of his to understand, to see where he's coming from. In all the things that he's gone through.

Jocelyn: 25:13

Yeah, and I think for me, too. It kind of made me think a little bit about empathy and the facts that just because I don't particularly care for somebody whether they're an actor somebody you meet in the street, you may not know everything about them. So empathy, you don't You don't have to understand what they went through to try and have empathy for people. Not that you let them walk all over you either, but you don't have to immediately jump Thio. Well, you've had everything given to you in life, So why should you be a jerk?

Graham : 25:48

Yeah, Yeah, And And this This involves people from all walks off life because the thing is, I remember no two little girls having this conversation, and I was saying, you know, it is very easy to say. Well, there's nothing wrong with these guys staying in the corner and tryingto, you know, to bum a cigarette and asking you for money. Why isn't he working and is there? Isn't to say that because, you know, you don't see anything wrong with him physically, But do we know what's wrong with him mentally and know all mental illness is visible is apparent. There are and know only that it could know this is really it doesn't have to be a mental illness. We think about this guy who is perfectly able to where? But who the hell is going to hire him? Because you don't know if he had I don't know, a little about in jail for Marina Mari. One opposition when he was 16 years old and he was completely stupid. But yet that still is in his record and he can't get a fucking job. We have to stop being so judgmental readily to George everybody, because we don't see what's wrong. Yeah, you know. Yes. E yes. That's the Minister's right there. Yeah. Yeah. So the cast. I am impressed by virtually everybody who took part in these movie. I don't know how you feel about that.

Jocelyn: 27:26

Yes, me too. I I loved the kid. Know it knew a Jew pop. I I loved his portrayal of of Young Otis. I think he just he just did a beautiful job of being a kid who just wants their dad to love him.

Graham : 27:45

Yes, and his ability to portray that pain. So yeah, found so beautifully. I don't know if that's even thing you can say, but yes, you are absolutely right. No nor Jube. I don't know. I've never seen this kid before. No, me neither. But what a cool leader actor he's aimed. I can only see you know great things happening for him from

Jocelyn: 28:15

now on. Yeah, Yeah, I think he, uh I think he has a great future ahead of him. And I hope that he as parents who love him. Yes, yes, e hope he's nobody's golden ticket.

Graham : 28:28

Yes. And hopefully he wasn't pulling outof own experience to portray all of what we saw in this movie. The kid I know he was acting and everything, but it looks like his lovable young gentleman And, um, you know, many a time I wanted to just reach out and give him a hug. Yes, yes. Yeah. So Lucas Hedges plays older audience, and, um, you know, uh, it's it's a character of the time that I don't necessarily have a little fun, Um, sympathy for because to assure an extent originally, he looked like he didn't want to be helped What? That is. In fact, one of the side effects off PTSD is the inability two to agree that you need treatment, you know, because with PTSD, you sort of talk yourself into some things that normally would work for you and that you shouldn't need any more help than that which normally, you know, is alcohol, drugs and shit like that. And so, you know, you have these need to portray that. I'm fine. You know? It's like when you fall in, a lot of people saw you fall. Yeah, Yeah, I happened. And then you go behind the wall instead, like, Oh, you know,

Jocelyn: 30:17

I think it looks like

Graham : 30:21

Exactly So I feel like that's what was going on. But there is a young men there that kept bodies company. I think his name is Byron Bowers. He's a comedian. And his lines were so funny. Yeah, he's his delivery was insane, but his likes Everything this guy said was funny, funny, funny. And yes, I think the funniest part about it is that obviously didn't find those for he.

Jocelyn: 30:57

No, no, just just looking at him like

Graham : 30:59

like for good. So Byron bars. It was a good casting their in. What do you think off Laura San Giacomo as as the as a therapist.

Jocelyn: 31:14

I was happy to see her better. What size seen her in in anything. And I've always liked her like I've always enjoyed her performances. So I, uh I was excited to see her, and I think she I think she did a really good job with being a therapist. I think she brought a crossed an empathetic and carrying therapist character. Very well,

Graham : 31:38

madly credible to it was like Like I see this lady. And immediately I see a therapist.

Jocelyn: 31:45

Yes, Yes. I don't see an actress playing a therapist. I see a therapist. Yes,

Graham : 31:51

that was those really, really good. And so now we go to the motel and we talk about some of the colorful characters we saw there, right? Yes. And that brings us, of course, to shy girl. Yes, I I don't know The the actress playing Side Girl is mostly known as a denser, more over denser than she's an actress. That doesn't mean that she doesn't act. But you know, her lunch into the world is more than I think. She toured with ah and Shiran, Kylie Minogue and a whole bunch of people f k a twig. She is from England. And what fascinates me the most about her character. I don't know if you would if you will agree with that, but is how little, she said. And how much she said, how little she opened her mouth. But how much her character's A's.

Jocelyn: 33:00

Yes, yes, I I agree with you 100% because she has very few lines. But she what she does say is very powerful. But more so. What she does is, um and I think maybe that was the message there, too, for young Otis because his father never shut up. He never stopped talking.

Graham : 33:21

Oh, my God. Yes. Hey,

Jocelyn: 33:22

never shut up. Um, but, see, I didn't really say anything, but every action she performed with Otis everything that she did with him and for him spoke more Southern words ever could. Yes, every touch, every look, every action said something more than just this person over here with verbal diarrhea.

Graham : 33:47

Yes, yes, The her glances were some of the most powerful things I've ever seen. And you know, as you say, that interaction caused in the the ability to bring so much innocence in that interaction. Yes, it's like it wasn't a woman rubbing a child of his innocence, but rather lowering herself to be as innocent as the child? Yes. I don't know if that makes Sens.

Jocelyn: 34:27

It does it. Does it make sense to me that there was? That's the other thing I thought was very touching to was it was It was so innocent. They're they're being together was completely innocent

Graham : 34:40

in there's this moment where I think the first time that they sort of, like, have these encounter, which, in my view, was completely, absolutely non sexual. It was sort of like, you need a hug. I need a hug, you know? Yes. And there was this moment where all this sort of like springs off the bed and find some money and gives it to her. And you could see the disappointment in her fees like this is no what this is about a ho. You know that Z count? How how did you misunderstand is you know what I mean. And I think the rest of the time this sort of like worked out for the two of them to understand in what situation they were.

Jocelyn: 35:33

Yeah, I thought that that it was really sad because you could, as you said, see the disappointment on her face and also the comprehension that this is the only way he knows how to show love. Because the only way he keeps his father around is by paying him. The only way he ever gets any good behavior out of his father is by paying him so you could see the comprehension on her face of this isn't what this is about. But I also understand why he did this. You know, there wasn't There was not judgment on her face. There was not there was not discussed. There was not excitement in the sense of Oh, boy. Free ride money. Um, it was this poor child only knows how to say I love you by giving me 50 bucks.

Graham : 36:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in that dynamic, if, you know, I didn't get off reading. And that seems to be a dynamic that, I dare say, has no faded in in shy as personal life. Um, the You know, the moment he made it big, I think hey went and went and bought this house for his mother in a car. And then he went and found his father. Took him to where? Harley Davidson store and told him if you see a bike that you like. Get it. You know, you know, it's It's almost as if now that I can show you that I'm good enough. You don't You know, you don't get to actually, I mean at me to yourself that you were wrong. And I've been good enough all along but years how I can show you how good I am, you know? Yes is a sad thing. You know, Um, it's it's it's a lot to work out as an adult. These feelings that you can only have friends you can only have of loved ones as long as you have something to give them is is one of the most damaging habits, if you will. Because it is the number one thing that will break every relation, every meaningful relationship the person has. Yeah, yet. So who else on the cast that we I There's an element that I like is that Mom was always there. But you never saw her? Yes, you know, and I think it was a court. They credited Natasha Leone as mom. But you never saw her, you know? No. Yeah. So these particular scene for me was heartbreaking, and I had to stop. I had to go. Just, you know, get a drink. And what? Something else in going back to it. Um, because I I still don't understand how some adults I don't see how much they hurt their kids when they don't take care too. You know, when they're gonna go added and hate each other and be horrible to each other to make sure not to do all of that in the prisons of the kid, right? Aimed for the notion that anyone would ask this poor kid. You know what? Be my messenger, you know?

Jocelyn: 39:40

Yes. Be the middleman for our phone

Graham : 39:42

bargain. My God, that was so horrible.

Jocelyn: 39:46

It was I

Graham : 39:47

feel bad for him. Because then any rage that the father felt towards the mother who's on the other side of the phone was directed at the poor kid. Yes, you know yes. Aimed. I think off course the kid was broken, but I think this is for me. This was where he he he was shattered.

Jocelyn: 40:20

I agree with you. I agree

Graham : 40:23

is his way. Who was shattered? Um two. Needless to say that we both like this movie. Yes, we think very highly of it. We I don't know, but I feel a certain kind of pride. I feel proud off off her Charlotte buff for these work.

Jocelyn: 40:49

Yeah, Yeah. I didn't really expect very much of it, to be honest, but after having watched it and seeing how how sensitively it was directed and and written, um, I'm very proud of of him. And I think he should be proud Thio of what he brought to the screen and the fact that he I was able to evoke some of those terrible times. But at the same time, you know, maybe give some of us some hope that at some point we'll be able to get past it.

Graham : 41:27

Yeah, And I also feel that same pride for Alma Harold for taking the lip from from mostly documentaries to a feature film and doing it so brilliantly. Yes, I see if future in absolutely blinding future there as a powerful voice that she will become in Hollywood.

Jocelyn: 41:59

Yes. And I look forward to that because there needs to be, you know, he needs to be more of that.

Graham : 42:05

This is is, um so watch this movie. It is on Amazon prime. It is called Honey Boy Starring Hi, Albert. Uh, no. Uh, juke, Um, Lucas Hedges, Uh, and F k a twigs, Laura's and Giacomo. Uh, who directed by the brilliant Alma Haro? Yeah, And tell us what you think. If you were able to watch it, please come back and tell us you can find us on Twitter. You confined us off course on Instagram, and you can leave us a message to on our website kicking instrument podcast talk. Come. You can find us on Facebook as kicking his Children and on being interest, right? Yes. Pieces First pin interest. You will find Jocelyn on Instagram as Jocelyn podcast and me you'll find me always as Mr Puts theta m r p u z z e t t a. That is on Twitter and on Instagram Please stay inside If you, you know, stay home. If you can take those social distancing warnings in, please protect yourselves You know you loved ones and protect the society around Yes, we need to stop the spread way Need to be vigilant but we need to do our

Jocelyn: 43:57

part. Yes, do our part to flatten the curb and not overwhelming already stressed and aging health care system.

Graham : 44:08

If you are affected by this way, are with you and wait. Thompson Ceiling, Get Wilson. Yes. Peace and good health. Absolutely. So for me and for Justin and thistles. Goodbye with Thank you very much for today.

Jocelyn: 44:33

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Graham

And so, Jojo, uh, all we have to do this week to be trending is to say, corona virus

Jocelyn

Corona virus

Graham

We're trending ladies and gentlemen, way are trending.  

Jocelyn

Oh, are Covid-19  

Graham

Covid-19

Jocelyn

Which someone pointed out to me, you could say to the eeer... to the lyrics of Come on, Eileen, you can sing it to me. Oh, yes, Exactly. Had come on, Eileen stuck in my head.  

Graham

That's awesome, person.

Graham

Also, in view of that, what should we do then? Uh,

Jocelyn

wash our hands.

Graham

Wash  our hands? You know  uuh.. many countries, especially Asian Country Vietnam, I heard. Did like this very catchy song about washing your hand  

Jocelyn

They did a little video to go along with. It would. Yeah,

Graham

the choreography is freaking awesome.  

Jocelyn

It is  

Graham

You know, that's that shit's  dope man. How do How do we not come up with this kind of shit in the  US, uh?

Jocelyn

Because we're I mean, we

Graham

got Hollywood, we got you know, all of these great rappers and singers and all kind of sh... I mean, I wouldn't mind if even for Billy Joel came up with some shit,

Jocelyn

you know? Yeah. Yeah, I I would argue that it's because, you know, America doesn't should give a shit about anybody But who there happened to be inhabiting at the moment. But America thing touches me, so you know, whatever.

Graham

All right? So seriously that we are talking about this because it is very, you know, A Propos?

Jocelyn

Yeah, schools are closing. And in the area that we're currently in their closing in other states responsible employers or having people work from home. You know, Thea, the CDC is having, uh, a lot of information on their website. Sporting events have been canceled. NASCAR's been canceled. NASCAR, NASCAR, I mean, you know, serious. Yeah, So, I mean, you know, it's serious when sports were canceled. Yes. You know, lots of conventions and gatherings have been cancelled. People or postponing weddings. So, um, this is a big deal,

Graham

Yo! But, all right, well, we're good, right?

Jocelyn

Yeah, we're good. So if if any of you are quarantined or self quarantined, thank you for for listening to us, and, uh, we have a fun little list for you.

Graham

Yes. Yes, we thought about that. Right. And, uh, we have something for our... for folks who, maybe courage. Because we know that in fact, we've got listeners all over the world, and I know that we've got listeners in Iran. We've got blisters in Italy. We've got listeners in Asia in most of these countries that are affected. Some of you guys have had to go on isolation. So we got you back. Yes, and with that said, Let's shoot, Let's go ahead and get this started, shall we?

Jocelyn

Let's do that. Hey, Graham.    

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This is kicking and streaming podcast, a Binge Watcher's Guide to Streaming Movies. TV series and stuff. Here are your hosts, Graham and Jocelyn!

Graham

and hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Kickin' & Streamin'. My name is Graham. And of course with me in studio. It is my fantastic co-host, the Very, very, very, very Bonachona Jocelyn. Aaaah you didn't know about that Bonachona, that's  ul tra good. So very good. Fantastic! Absolutely fantastic. Jojo, say hi to these folks for me?

Jocelyn

Howdy. Do you? You know that everybody teams in every week for my howdy. D'oh! Don't do it, everybody. There's they're sweeping in the street.

Graham

Who are, you know, What did you do, with Jocelyn? You know the transcription to our podcast, when I say Jocelyn, they are transcribing as Jost ling I jus t like that's no, I'm talking about whatever do Why did pick on the guy with the accent? I don't know. Always. So this week, as Jocelyn alluded to we are talking about We have a show that it covered 19 oriented because we thought the sooner or later as a scientist put it, between 40 to 70% of the earth population is going to be affected by this. This is no hyperbole. This is no exaggeration. This is where we are, and this is what it is. And in that respect, we want you to be prepared because there's only so many books you can read. There's only so many magazines you can read. And, uh, there's only so much you can scroll on, you know, on Facebook and social media, given the fact that pretty much everybody is talking about the same thing. So it's not even that fun anymore.  

Jocelyn

No

Graham

We discovered this article on vulture dot com that presents us with 58 pandemic theme movies that one could watch in case of self isolation or or quarantine. Right? And so we are going to present these movies with their titles, and we're going to give you a brief synopsis of A And we'll also tell you where you can find those movies to stream.  

Jocelyn

Yes,  

Graham

Right. So, Jo, what about you? Get started?

Jocelyn

All right, So I first have Outbreak, which was a movie that turned a micro generation into hypochondriacs. Outbreak is about a fictional California town that is entirely quarantined when it becomes ground zero for an Ebola like outbreak in the United States. The story centers on the CDC and military medical researchers charged with containing and treating the infected, and it has people bleeding out of orifice is and that one extremely scary movie theater scene that made almost everyone currently between about 30 and 35 think they were going to catch a catastrophic illness in a movie theater.  

Graham

Oh, wow. Oh,

Jocelyn

so this one you can get on Netflix and, um, I personally have not seen this one, but, um, it sounds like it was Ah, ah ah humdinger. How's that humdinger?

Graham

Humdinger? What is a elaborate for me on Humdinger?

Jocelyn

Ah, like a really big deal, but in, like, a scary way. Oh, yeah,

Graham

that's what home dig.

Jocelyn

Yeah, like that's a humdinger of an injury. You know, like somebody's got a broken arm, the bones hanging out.

Graham

Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, I For a moment I thought it was like something. You heard him. That rap Hostepper... they call me hot stepper, muderer

Jocelyn

that stuck in my head better than Come on, Eileen. So e fine with that.

Graham

Jocelyn has been, has been thinking about Come on Eileen. Come on. You know what I mean. I like singing just so I can say what I mean. It's cool, Whip. Let's move on then. So the next one is Is it contagion? Oh, contagion.

Jocelyn

Think it's contagion contagion. It's gotta be in. This is America way would never say something as exotic and lovely is contingent

Graham

on it. So let's go with contagion. The disease disaster movie on Everyone sleeps Right Now. Steven Soderbergh's Contagion is best known for the terrifying death of Gwyneth Paltrow very early on in the movie, which makes us all realize that the fictional disease spreading across Earth in super serious you can't just kill Gwyneth Paltrow like that the movie is front loaded would tread before turning into a chilling sociological study off what everyday people would do during a pretty realistic seeming pandemic. It's available on Hulu, and I think we are seeing a sociological experiment with these thing going on right now.  

Jocelyn

Yeah. Definitely so

Graham

if you're not in the United States and let me tell you about something ridiculous that has happened here as a result of just the talks about the Covid-19  0r Corona viruses that somehow people think they need more toilet paper than usual. So, Right now there is a shortage of toilet paper

Jocelyn

And paper towels,

Graham

Paper towels

Graham

and napkins  

Graham

But Jocelyn, why?

Jocelyn

I I don't know. I don't understand. I I actually saw a little comic that I felt was appropriate because it was you know, and by comic, I just mean that it was illustrated. It was a mom with a cancer child patient in bed, you know, with all the machines and everything hooked up. And she tells the father, you know OK, we need we need paper towels. We need it's hand sanitizer. We need wipes. We need bleach. We need toilet paper. You know, um and we need masks because they have a child that has a compromised immune system, and the father goes out to get it. And everything is the all of the shelves are empty. And he's just standing there in the middle of the empty shells going, you bastards. And you know, that's to me. That's what it is. It's I don't understand the hoarding mentality. Yeah, um, the, uh Well, I got my toilet papers, so I'll be fine and fuck the rest of you guys. I I don't I don't get it. I understand wanting to be prepared for something, but I don't get the whole toilet paper thing.

Graham

There's a whole lot of things that that I was expecting would be Would would go extinct in the supermarket. You know, much in the same way that when you were expecting a hurricane or something, that for some reason people stock up on milk, which, when you know when you have a hurricane or when you have a snowstorm wherever you lose electricity, most likely. So there you go.

Jocelyn

Yeah, really, really know of all the things to have go bad, milks is a pretty nasty one

Graham

is so quick. But that doesn't make sense on, you know, on this aspect and for the life of me, I still don't get the toilet paper thing.

Jocelyn

I don't I don't know. In in the apocalypse, I would think that one of the last things you would be worried about is if your ass was clean. E I mean, I mean, seriously, honestly, if we're going to talk about this being the actual apocalypse and this is the end of structured society, toilet paper is what you're going for, folks? 

Graham

I don't get it, but  But that, on the other hand, has given us a lot of good memes. E I follow As you guys know, I'm I'm Haitian, So I follow a lot of Facebook pages that are Haitian oriented. The other one was a girl who tweeted that her uncle called her from Haiti Say, do you need me to come in to rescue you from this shit hole country? I thought that was gold. All right, so Jocelyn, who's next and what is next?

Jocelyn

Um, let's see. This is one that I've never heard of. It's called

Graham

the flu. What? Theo WENN did not wanna come

Jocelyn

up. It's, um, in the South Korean film, a severely deadly strain of the virus h five n one starts tearing through the city of Bun Dang killing Those who contract it within 36 hours population of nearly one million are suddenly in danger of being wiped out en masse available on iTunes or Prime.

Graham

Oh, that might be one of those that you have to pay for it. Maybe

Jocelyn

it's a mile. Yeah, that's sure if it's on on products

Graham

will be available with prime membership. Also, Prime has a lot of paid for stuff. So

Jocelyn

that's true. They do

Graham

Yeah, but hey, I mean again, if you have stuck at home and you have to watch something, you know, I might as well pay $3.50 for a standard definition and watching me, and I mean yeah,

Jocelyn

because I mean, you know, you know, you're gonna if your Starbucks person you're not going out to get you your regular Starbucks. So you because you're quarantined, you're not supposed to be going out. So if you are tisk, tisk bad on you, you're not doing the right thing. So So, yeah, So there's your your Starbucks for the day is ah, is ah, foreign movie. And that that sounds interesting because

Graham

we just had H1N1 woes. It was 2010 was believed that way. We have each one and one.

Jocelyn

Yeah, we should have a vaccine for that one,

Graham

right? That's true, because I remember Obama got Obama way. Got it? Yeah, that's what everybody kind of chilled out.

Jocelyn

Yeah, I went and got it.

Graham

You did,

Jocelyn

I did go get the job. I was that paid for us all to go get the H1N1 vaccine because they were concerned about all of us getting sick. Good job. Yeah, it hurt like a motherfucker. I have to say, You know, your arm is always sore after a vaccination. For whatever reason, that one hurt worse. It could have been psychological. It could have been psychosomatic. It probably was. But I don't know why. Because I really wasn't worried about each one and one. They just came to us. And we're like,

Graham

Hey, do what you want to get you. So

Jocelyn

and I was like, Yeah, sure, sure, Yeah. Like needles.

Graham

You know what? The interesting thing is? The amount of fucking conspiracy theories that have, you know, risen in relation to to Covid 19.

Jocelyn

Oh, yeah, like it was created and all the house. And, um, you know, it's a it's a Democratic yes. Um um, something or another to make the president look bad. And

Graham

there's one. This is the last one I heard was it was Bill Gates.

Jocelyn

Oh, yeah. That one too

Graham

Bill Gates. Let's move on. E. I can't talk about dumb stuff like that without getting ***. So let's do it. So Jocelyn you are an old movie buff.  

Jocelyn

I am.  

Graham

So I wonder if you know about the next one.

Jocelyn

I actually don't know about it, but I know all the people that are in it. When then I I kind of want to go home and watch this

Graham

I knew it. I do it. But unfortunately for you, it falls on me to to actually talk about I don't know most of the people that they accept full Sophia Loren and Martin Sheen. Perhaps Burt Lancaster in Ava Gardner. So, yeah, I do know about these people. Yeah. Okay, so this movie is called the Cassandra Crossing, and it stars Sophia Loren, Martin Sheen, Ava Gardner and Burt Lancaster. So these four people are among the stars in this film is about a European train that he's attacked by Swedish terrorists. That sounds weird because I've never heard of Swedish terrorists.

Jocelyn

Do they come with meatballs?  

Graham

Do they... The attack of the Swedish meatballs?  

Jocelyn

They come and make you assemble your  Furniture?  

Graham

Yeah. IKEA,  Al Queda.  

Jocelyn

Yes. Yes! 

Graham

it makes sense.

Jocelyn

It does, it makes perfect sense.

Graham

A Swedish terrorist  organization. What it is makes you assemble your own damn thing. All right, so so okay,  By Swedish terrorists and infected with a deadly pathogen. The train is also speeding toward an unstable bridge., but No one on board is being allowed off. So this movie is available on Tubi  on YouTube or Google. Play and I have to say something about Tubi, Tubi is actually very good.  a very good  streaming system. The only thing is, it's for free. Ah, thing There is a paid version of it, but it is actually for free. And it has a lot of good ass movie of the good old movies, but they will f*ck you up, with commercial. It's one of those that you don't see the commercial's coming most of the time. Lag is just in the damn movie. Hey s Oh, yeah, the Cassandra Crossing Because its on Tubi, I'm probably going to watch it, even though, as I as you know, Jocelyn, I'm not big on old ass movies. But let's see what happens.  

Jocelyn

Maybe it's not about our old ass. E o. Okay, Okay.

Graham

What about what do you think? I can't wait todo All right.

Jocelyn

Next. Oh, boy. Um, were generally not making fun of anybody who has corona over the cove in 19 or making light of the situation. It's just we're having a good time here, you know? I mean, honestly, there's nothing that any of us can do about it except wash our hands, be quarantined if we're supposed to be quarantined. Worst decided to self quarantine if we think we've been around somebody who was sick. So I mean, you know, do the right thing. But, you know, that doesn't mean you can't laugh. That is a serious thing. And people are going to die. But it, you know, at the same time, there is literally nothing we can do other than the responsible adult.

Graham

Exactly. And of course, we wouldn't make fun of you for having covered 19. But if you have an old ass

Jocelyn

Yeah, sorry, You're outta luck. I'm gonna make fun of that ass, E o. Next on the list is a movie called Infection. When a doctor's mistake leads to dire consequences for a patient, a strange illness starts afflicting the medical staff who helped cover it up. This Japanese movie is a bit more outlandish with this deaths with the infected liquefied into green goop. But it's important to have a global perspective on outbreaks and then that that makes sense to me, you know, to have some foreign, the foreign movie and the the non English language movie and the worldwide view because, you know, as Americans are stocking toilet paper. But What are the Japanese stocking?

Graham

Yeah, I wonder what?

Jocelyn

Probably They're being smart. And they're doing sake or something like that. I mean, if I was going to hoard something that would be alcohol uncle, but because, I mean, you can use that to sanitize. You can use that to wash. That is true. You can use it for wounds, and you can just drunk off your old ass.  

Graham

You know, by the way, I remember this week I actually saw a tweet by Jeffrey by your husband... picture of a Tequila bottle and he is like, wife says she's ready to quarantine and, uh, I think is good.  

Jocelyn

Yes, Yes. Site. I needed some tequila. You know, I just need to get some vodka.

Graham

Oh...Damn!  Party at Jocelyn! uh all right, So the next movie we're going to talk about was clearly written by Captain Obvious E. I can't believe that somebody you know what? I should make a movie about a virus,  

Jocelyn

But what should we name it? Graham.

Graham

Watch. Yeah, um, I got it....Virus!

Jocelyn

Brilliant!

Graham

thing. So you guessed it. The movie we're going to talk about next is called Virus. And he says this Indian film is based on the true event surrounding the 2018 Nipah virus outbreak in Kerala and the local communities mobilization effort to stop the spread and this movie is available on Prime, I would probably have called it have named him Outbreak in Kerala or Outbreak. You know, all the Nipah virus or I don't know. Yeah, maybe I'm being more obvious than than the obviety of this, but I don't know, but virus virus there's more from 2019. So let's continue with the obvious titles, and shit, that seems to be the thing right here,  

Jocelyn

does what it says on the tin. So next we have something called the Bay. If you're a sucker for found footage, try this movie about a quaint little town that turns into a breeding ground for a waterborne organism that takes control of the minds and bodies of its hosts. While not the best film ever created, there's something especially convincing about the recovered footage that will truly kick you into trick you into believing you just watch the town burn itself down with madness.

Graham

And it's called the bay

Jocelyn

the bay because they got it from the bay. It's available on Hulu. Now, I actually remember. I've had not seen this movie, but ah, this'll This movie was filmed not very far from where I grew up. Really? Yeah, it's It's about the Chesapeake Bay. The body of water that's close to Maryland. So, um, you know the baby, the baby there, there. One could argue it wouldn't be much of a loss, but anyone? Yeah, I remember when this came out, because the there was, I saw the trailer for it and there was some of the found quote unquote found footage was in the trailer, and I was like, I recognize that.

Graham

Let me ask you this does Is it, like, bad on the level of Sharknado?

Jocelyn

I think it's pretty damn close your date from the trailer. From what I remember from the trailer, it's been a while. But from what I remember, it's it's pretty damn close, too. Sure. Yeah.

Graham

That's the 1st 1 I'm going to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Certain

Jocelyn

Sharknado is a good one. The rift tracks version of Sharknado is great too.

Graham

no. I'm going for the Bay.

Jocelyn

Oh, you're going for The Bay?

Graham

Yes, you damn straight. I'm one for The Bay. I love me some ridiculous movie.

Jocelyn

Yeah, it's It's if I haven't watched it. But if if I remembering the trailer correctly, I I was like, Wow!

Graham

e when all you can say is wow you go because there's so many shit you could say to show surprise and dumbfounded ness. Yeah, but wow is actually the ultimate resource in terms of Yeah, I was kind of your move.

Jocelyn

Wow, it's kind of pure.

Graham

I can't say anything else except Wow. Yeah, you have outdone yourself You're doing yourself mo'focka!  All right, then. So The Bay it is for me tonight and we continue moving on to the next It is deranged. And it says the parasite in the South Korean film drives the infected to drown themselves. And when one Man's family's infected, he has to do what he can to try and find a cure. As the condition spreads across the nation and the government sends the afflicted into quarantine, this movie is available on iTunes and YouTube. I wonder. Is it talking about YouTube TV on just YouTube?  

Jocelyn

I don't know  

Jocelyn

Cause like, if it's on YouTube, all right. I can't see anybody paying for it. all night.

Jocelyn

Yeah, I can't either.  

Graham

Well, whatever.  

Jocelyn

Yeah,  

Graham

Deranged,

Graham

that's some. That's kind of interesting because there is a parasite that well, get in animals and insects, and it does drive him to drive to drown themselves.  

Graham

Is that so?  

Jocelyn

Yeah, so I can get into water and have it's chill. It's, you know, pro Creator in the in the water, so that when something comes along and drinks the water than it can then infects the new host.

Graham

It reminds me then, of a biblical event that has always. Scientists have always explained it as one of these situations where where a bunch of pig's got, you know, some sort of virus that led them to go into the water and drowned themselves. But the Bible explains that Jesus, took demons off a person and transposed it into the pigs, which is what led them into the water to drown himself in. So that brings me reminds me, reminds me of that. So it's good that you mention that

Jocelyn

Yeah, yeah, so that's there is I can't remember the name of the parasite, but I've actually seen videos of it. It's it's horrifying.  

Graham

Laaawd !

Jocelyn

Yeah, is No, don't want to. Yeah, Now, don't Don't YouTube it. Don't go. Don't you know, don't you? Sure. It's creepy. Okay, It splits their head. Open ticket into the water. Oh, no. After it drowns them. No. Yeah.

Graham

No. Okay. No, I wish you didn't even tell whatever, dude,

Jocelyn

I needed to convince you to not do it.

Jocelyn

all you have to say is Graham Don't, but nooooo. All right, Jojo. Who's next?

Jocelyn

you're next. Now I'm next. Oh, you have extreme Next your next time. Next. Yeah. Carriers Chris Pine, Piper Perabo and Emily VanCamp star in this movie about a group of friends trying to outrun a pandemic who realized on their journey that the evils of man are just as threatening as any virus. And this is available on Netflix.

Graham

So this is if you would sort of, like, taking the shape of a little bit off one of those conspiracy theories, right? Like yours was created by man and she alright, but it's available on Netflix. So if you want to next fleet netflix and chill while your chilling in quarantine doesn't

Jocelyn

make sure the other person's quarantined too. Yeah,

Graham

by the way, about the quarantine. Do you know How many babies in the next nine months you think are gonna be named Corona? Vironta,  Covidian,  Eileen Veronica You're wrong, man. Why did your Veron ta was

Jocelyn

Wait, When were you born? Oh, you're one of those babies

Graham

And the baby's name is virally. I'm sorry. What now? Virally  enough with the clowning around so the next one is called The Last Days. Here's another novel Contagion Take an affliction called The Panic has swept across humanity causing people to become so severely agoraphobic that they actually die if they're forced outside.  Our hero Mark has been trapped in an office building but sets out to find his girlfriend and has to do so without ever actually setting foot beyond shelter.  That movie is available on Hulu.

Jocelyn

That sounds kind of interesting. T

Graham

hat is mad. Interesting.

Jocelyn

It makes me think of you. And and I don't know if you ever play this when you were a kid, but the floor is lava. When you had to, you had to navigate the house by only stepping on furniture or or not stepping on the rug. Like if you had a rug and like the rest of your floors one, all the others have

Graham

you explain it. I can. I can certainly tell you that. Only literal American You get to play that shit. You know you don't You don't get to jump on. furniture that are cleaned by my mama. No.

Jocelyn

Okay, so it makes me think of that because, you know, he's not allowed to leave shelter. So we kind of like

Graham

it More or less would be like the flora is her love. And I will whoop your  

Jocelyn

Yeah. Yeah, pretty much.  

Graham

But, like, yeah, agoraphobia as well. Always been one of the one off my favorite phobias to observe and study. And, uh, it's, you know, it's a fascination to me. The notion that somebody is mad scared of just walking out. I mean, you I I think main reason we're podcasters, because way are a lot of people don't believe in what I'm saying. This but I'm like mad introvert and, while, I can function on stage while I can. You know, I don't have a fear of public speaking while I can interact while I'm in in public. But my introvert shelf is is asking When's this fucking thing over? I need to I need to get out of here, and I don't wanna be more among people s O. These agoraphobia is is just like that on steroid in that you don't want to even be outside. Yeah, it's just don't you just afraid of stepping foot outside of your door Yeah, and that has always been a fascinating thing. I, uh I hope I never get there, but there are days that I really don't.

Jocelyn

You know, I, uh it's, uh I think I I think we're quite similar in that. And then I'm I'm definitely an introvert and to find, Although I'm not afraid of public speaking either, or being crowds can bother me. But, um, I don't find that energizing. Whereas some people do find that very energizing for me, it's very draining. Yes. So, like you, my been looking forward to whenever I get to go back to my little Heidi hole and be comfortable and, you know, not have to worry about about, you know, casting this, this image of being a sane human being, but, um yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but ah, I think that yeah, I have definitely had the days to where, uh, it's like, No, I'm not I'm not going out there because I might see a person. It's not so much the being outside it, See, I might see a person or a person might seem Hey,

Graham

and then why would you want to talk to me like, What's the point? I really look like I want to say hi, yeah, How's your day going like and it's not is Really. We feel we're better than anybody you know,

Jocelyn

or that I even wish the person even any will will in the slightest No, I just It's just I I can't I don't have the energy. I don't have the life source to give that to you right now. And the fact that you know, it's just what it that's what it is to be an introvert. It is you just sometimes you just can't people.

Graham

It is draining, you know, like I know that one of the main reasons that I always park my car in the garage is so that when I get out of my car, the neighbour doesn't feel like he has to say hi and exactly they're lovely people across the street next to me, but I wish they could read me enough to know that they don't have to say is OK, they don't say hi. It's certainly fine if they don't ask me as your day going because I don't want I don't see the point of it what we've talked about ourselves enough.

Jocelyn

There is one more thing they just say there is, Ah, what looks like It could be a really good movie coming out that you might be interested in with Amy Adams about Agora phobia. Really? Yes, it's It's It's It's Citizen is a thriller, Um, but it's it's really about Agora phobia, and I've read the book and I'm interested to see the movie. Um, I think it's called The Lady in the window with a woman in the window.

Graham

Oh, that sounds fantastic,

Jocelyn

but it is. I mean, it's it's really about Agora phobia.

Graham

Have it? I don't go to your knowing I don't go to the movies, the movie theater, no book

Jocelyn

that ability, it'll be streamed

Graham

isn't enough. Yeah, this would be one of those that I might wanna go through it because most likely I'll be by myself in the movie theater to be in with the dope. I like Amy Adams to Amy Adams is? No.

Jocelyn

You know, this is a really good actress.

Graham

See it? It seemed more than I'd Yeah. Yeah. So what else do we have? Jocelyn,

Jocelyn

Let's see here. I'm not quite sure ... ah wait. Um, I'm not quite sure how to pronounce this, but I'm gonna go with my best shot Ponty pool. Sounds like I'm saying panty pool street full of pull if I have been talking about old ass is in toilet paper, not a pool of panties. Um, the strength of Ponty pool. Now one of the giggles. Every time it is, it's limited scope. While humanity is being brought to its knees by a rapidly spreading infection. We only experience the crisis through the perspective of an Ontario radio disc jockey who is receiving sporadic reports of the mayhem outside. This is available on iTunes and shudder. I'm not familiar with shudder.

Graham

I'm not familiar with shudder either, and it was supposed to be experts at streaming, so I have to I have to do my

Jocelyn

We're gonna have to do research. And it sounds like it's something to do with, like,

Graham

one of those popcorn streaming platforms.

Jocelyn

Yeah, with, like, maybe just horror movies in that kind of thing.

Graham

So we'll find out, eh? So? Well, we'll do it. Three more resync and then we call it a. That sounds. So the next one for me is 28 days later. Writer and director Danny Boyle. By the way, Danny Boyle is, Dude that directed Slumdog Millionaire, right and director Danny Boyle changed the zombie genre forever with 28 days later, in which a handful of survivors come together a month after mysterious virus has decimated the U. K. And try to survive long enough to be rescued. So Danny Boyle involved. I see this is insanely watchable. I would watch it, but I would have to be quarantined, so I'm no quarantine yet. So I am gonna watch this one for now, and this one is available on Hulu Yeah,

Jocelyn

sounds good. So next we have Dawn of the Dead from 1978. Um, you could watch a lot of of the dead movies, but we recommend Romero's sequel to his formative zombie classic. The Contagion has gone beyond the farmhouse of the first film film, and it's taking over the entire United States. The story focuses on the small group of survivors who make their way to a mall together. And it's one of the best movies ever made about the deleterious effects of an unstoppable pandemic in its early stages.

Graham

Okay, so we said we're going to do three more, and this is the last one there, All right, I think everybody's familiar with this. If you haven't, I think it's one of those that you can watch over and over again called World War  Zed or World War Z. Brad, Pitt and Mireille  Enos Star in these epic contagion movie that features maybe the largest mass of sprinting zombies ever put on screen. Pitt plays a former United Nations investigator who agrees to make his way through the infected landscaped to find the source of the outbreak and hopefully a cure before everyone falls to the pandemic. And that one is available on Hulu

Jocelyn

that one. I have seen, and I read the book, too, and the book is nothing like the movie.

Graham

So which one is better than me? Let me guess

Jocelyn

well, you can't compare them because they're completely different. The only thing they share is the name

Graham

Oh wow.

Jocelyn

So I I mean genuinely, they're they're they're they're completely different. So I enjoyed the book very much, and I enjoyed the movie, too. So I

Graham

have to tell you, this would not have seen that one. But it's no movie that I would have chosen to watch because, like I said, I'm Haitian and zombies are a thing like zombie literally. You know, the whole idea of zombie that has been exploited for almost 90 years in Hollywood surfaced in Haiti, right? And so none of what you see on screen has anything to do with zombification over the or the notion of Zombie. So I'm no, a big fan of that. Having said that, I did see World War Z  because I was in an airplane 

Graham

Oh, so yeah,  

Jocelyn

I will say that the tone of the movie, if I'm remembering correctly with a little odd, like every so often something would happen And it would be like Was I supposed to laugh at that? Like I Not that you know, uh, a thriller can't have funny moments or whatever, but it was kind of like it that would suddenly make a dad joke in the middle of somebody dying. You move here you okay? Do you

Graham

have the virus movie? Like one of those too soon, dude. Yeah, Yeah. Oh, just do my back. So, yeah, I mean, of course, if you have nowhere to go and it's one of those movies that you can watch over and over a game cause it is good but it's slightly ridiculous. And for me, every zombie movie, every zombie, whatever Don't buy made by Hollywood is ridiculous because it totally fantasize the the theory of zombie education end. It's laughable in truly what we Haitians know  of zombies and is fucking terrifying. So, yeah, for me, there's a lot of humor in it, not because it's funny, but is because look at this bullshit, you know? But they haven't. So we've come up There's farm any more movies in that. And in fact, if you go on vulture to come for these articles, 58 movies. But of course, we couldn't cram them all in 45 minutes off the show, so we're gonna leave it at that. All right? Yeah. Hopefully you don't find yourself in a situation where you have to watch all of these movies. Meaning we sincerely hope that it doesn't get to you being quarantined. That's that's it for the truth. Yes. And before we go, we want to let you know, of course, if you're listening to us for the first time, we're all over social media kicking his doing podcasts, instagram, Facebook, Pinterest, Twitter. And, uh, I think that's everything.

Jocelyn

Yeah, I think so

Graham

are our website is kicking in human podcast dot com aimed. You can find Jocelyn on instagram as Jocelynpodcast. And of course me, I am Mrpuzzeta it's M r p u z z e t t a. So take care of yourselves. Wash your

Jocelyn

hands, wash your hands right, 12 seconds at least

Graham

20 seconds. And by the way, if you go on her instagram page  Kickin' & Streamin'  underscore podcast we posted at list off nineties and in 2000 songs that you can substitute for Happy Birthday. It is instead of singing Happy Birthday when washing your hands so that it doesn't get boring. Yeah, s o, this is a Well did you pick one day? Is there one particular that you like?

Jocelyn

Um, I like the spice girls. See, that's when you can bust out at the top of your lungs and work. And everybody could be like the fuck is going on in there. Yeah,

Graham

yeah, I did one of those at wor, but it was your queen to be from from coming to America. I completely forgot that I was at work and she's you Thio be in. When I was came out, everybody was. But anyway, folks will live at these and, uh, wills you next week. Yes, we'll talk Thio, be safe. Wash my damn hands. Lets you have a good one bag, but

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Aidy Bryant

Shrill has returned this week for a second season on Hulu and we couldn’t be happier about that. Now, if you find yourself asking: “what the hell is Shrill, and why should I care about it?’ We’re glad you asked because you’re in for a treat.

Shrill is a Hulu original series based on the book Shrill: Notes from a Loud Woman written by writer, comedian and activist Lindy West. Starring SNL cast member Aidy Bryant, Shrill was in our opinion, one of the best original shows by Hulu since perhaps The Handmaid’s Tales. In fact, we liked it so much, we dedicated an entire podcast episode about it.

So, what is Shrill about? Well imagine a world where someone was screaming, beaming, and being unapologetic about self-love and body positivity long before Lizzo made it cool. Shrill chronicles Lindy West’s journey from the girl who was made to believe she couldn’t possibly be comfortable in her own skin as a fat woman to loudly touting the fat acceptance movement with absolutely brilliant humor and comedic genius. The Casting of Aidy Bryant is also a fantastic choice on this series and she owns every single moment on the screen as she often does when we see her on Saturday Night Live.

Listen to what Jocelyn and Graham had to say about Shrill on this episode of Kickin’ & Streamin’ last year, and go binge watch seasons 1 & 2 on Hulu. Season one consists of 6 episodes of approximately 22 minutes each, and season 2; which premiered on Jan 24, has 8 episodes.

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There’s probably not a lot about Good Omens I can say that hasn’t already been said.  Brilliant?  Yes.  Funny?  Yes.  Great television?  Undoubtedly so.  

But if you haven’t watched it, I cannot emphasize enough how much you need to.  How brilliant and sparkling the chemistry between stars David Tennant and Michael Sheen really is.  How Neil Gaiman put so much love and respect into this project, not only for himself, but for the late great Terry Pratchett.  How much care went into the creation of this is so patently obvious, it will give you goose bumps.
 
So yes, watch Good Omens season 1 on Amazon Prime. And you know what else?  Listen to our podcast episode that we dedicated to it, because it’s damn good, too.
 

Having cable is like having one of those $10 gym memberships you don’t use, but have a hard time getting rid of. I was once involved in one such gym membership relationship and a friend made me see the light. She told me the reason there are 10-dollar gym memberships is actually a genius marketing strategy whereby the member may quit going to the gym, but he or she will always be hesitant to cancel their membership for the following two reasons: 1).- It’s only $10 a month and 2)- It’s only $10 a month.

The difference with cable is that cable is at least 20 times more expensive than a $10 gym membership and though we may use it from time to time, we never watch enough TV content to make up for the cost of cable. That’s mainly because we all know what we want to watch, we mostly watch the same few programs on the same channels except cable companies don’t give us the choice to only have those channels. Cable companies force the consumer to basically buy an entire garbage pail with the promise you’ll find some treasures in it, as long as you’re willing to dig and syphon through the rubbish.

Add to all of this, the fact that cable companies make it extremely hard to break up with them by offering you the grand deal they never managed to offer to you until the moment you call to cancel your subscription. This strategy is incredibly effective and it manages to entangle the customer for another long-term commitment they never see coming until it’s too late to back out of it. I’ll be the first one to confess I fell many a times for the “free upgrade” trick, just to realize a year or two later that it was neither an upgrade, nor free after all.

So, how did I break free from the chains of cable and started strictly streaming? One day, my wife and I sat down and reviewed how much TV we watched on a weekly basis; which wasn’t much. We went over the channels on which those programs are and ended up realizing at least sixty percent of the programs or shows we watched were actually on over-the-air TV; which means we didn’t necessarily have to have cable to watch those programs. This was when we arrived at solution number one: Buy a Good Digital HD Antenna. You’d be surprised to see how many HD local over-the-air channel content you’re missing out on due to having cable.

What did I do about the Cable TV programs I watched? There are two options here and I opted for both, but you most certainly don’t have to do as I did because one of these options should be more than enough: Hulu, and Sling TV. The latter is a streaming service which spawned off of Direct TV and it began marketing itself as “A La Carte TV.” Sling offers a Blue plan starting at $20 per month, and an Orange plan; which is slightly more expensive, but the catch is you get to choose your channels lineup. Since the inception of Sling, many similar streaming services have emerged offering the flexibility of watching what you know you’ll watch for a low monthly fee. Just do your research and choose whatever feels more comfortable for your wallet. When I decided to let go of Cable, I already had a Hulu subscription, but I was barely using it because I thought I could always watch my favorite programs live on Cable TV, as opposed to watching them two hours later on Hulu. The problem is, I almost never had time to watch most of my favorite programs live anyway because most of them coincided on day and time; therefore I could only choose to watch one show while DVR-ing the others to watch them at a later time. Like me, many people don’t know Cable companies actually charge consumers a lease or rent fee for DVR devices, so when I thought about it, I realized I might as well use Hulu to watch the programs I was recording to watch later. Right at around the same time I decided to dump cable and to start streaming, Hulu and Spotify announced a new partnership where consumers could combine their respective Hulu and Spotify accounts for a reduced monthly fee, and I jumped right at that opportunity. I went from paying $13 for a limited commercials Hulu account and $10 for a premium Spotify account, to paying about $12 for both services.

Since we went from Cable TV to strictly streaming in my household, we’ve gone from spending approximately $200 monthly cable bills to about $65 for streaming services. Full disclosure: my Netflix account is paid for by my mobile phone service provider; therefore it’s not included in the aforementioned billed amount for streaming services.

The decision to forego Cable TV and to stream instead is an entirely personal one and we encourage you to do your research in order to determine whether streaming is for you. Some of the streaming services I’ve taken the liberty to mention on this blogpost are simply from my point of view as a consumer and I have not being paid, nor am I being offered any incentive for doing so. Keep in mind that what has worked out for me might not necessarily be your cup of tea, and finally, before making the switch from Cable to streaming, make sure you’re comfortable enough with such technologies and you’re able to keep up with its rapid evolution. It’s sometimes hard to remember Netflix was a DVD mailing service a few years back, yet now it’s the biggest and most well-known streaming platform in the world.

Finally, this is not a decision you should take lightly, and before you switch, remember to do a review of the things you value the most about the Cable service you currently have and whether or not you could live without it, or substitute it with something else. My personal experience has been fantastic and I would never go back to TV cable. 

 

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